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[Satan]

We do support ADC.

[adrian_007]

about op side and 1.0.1 not exacly - but afaik it's gonna be improved a bit in the next release, i believe...

[da_asmodean]

hmm... tough one this is
actually i personally use zK++ because theres no OPapexdc++

[Satan]

I have never used an OP client. Can anyone explain to me exactly what features they provide that you guys would like to see in Apex?

[Crise]

Satan, on Jun 11 2008, 03:48 PM, said:

I have never used an OP client. Can anyone explain to me exactly what features they provide that you guys would like to see in Apex?

Same here, as afaik ApexDC at present is almost complete OP client (ps: there will be no need to make it complete either as RSX & Apex will change to a different CDM in near future)

[Crise]

Toast, on Jun 11 2008, 07:22 PM, said:

hehe still waiting for it to happen so i can resume my work

working on it as I write this, need to consult adrian about something though...

[Satan]

Crise, if you dont understand the need of an OP client what exactly are you working on mate?

[Lord Squeak]

I miss the old Speed tab in the userlist.
was very useful for detecting 50b/s limiters and such horrible people.

[MadGeneticist]

You’re discussing a version of apex which would give operators better control over the hub? This new version will have features applicable to regular users and others which can be simply blocked, so… sounds like a vain idea.



On the other hand operators would benefit for a revamp of the hub-server, incorporating features of accompanying bots, such as YnHub-server, Masterbot/trivia, G-bot,  the ‘Quotes-bot’, usercommand generator and statbot  of which I currently have. I would like the resulting complex to give me full control on the hub but without the ability to download fileshares through the client interface, and an ip recording feature which would be much useful as I’m currently on my universities network, so I could map-out its halls, perhaps in addition to the registration list and available in a notepad print-out. And most importantly for us a time-out feature for automatically disconnecting the hub on a specific basis, and this is also applicable to regular users.



However I can say that an operator’s version should be wholly compatible and synchronous with the hub server itself, in which case you may operate all of the hub-server features via menu-displayed commands in the client if you are feeling lazy or there is a problem with physically reaching the server directly, such as being hosted on a separate computer. The ability to detect cheating users is a major requirement for equality of usage however.

[Lotus]

This thread is almost 2 years old. Apex is already an op-client.

[MadGeneticist]

Ah lol, then the information on http://www.apexdc.net/download/ under 'operator’s addition' needs to be updated; suggests that a new operator's-'only' edition is in current planning. Cheers.

[Lotus]

Thank you for your feedback. Perhaps they will delete that section or put there op additions like some "official" lua scripts for apex etc.

[promo]

"Operator's Edition

• No public release available. Click for details."

Where can i find it?

[Lee]

promo, on 26 May 2010 - 04:20 PM, said:

"Operator's Edition

• No public release available. Click for details."

Where can i find it?

The current version is pretty much a fully fledged OP client.

[3dfx]

still with RSX++ out there,that would be a double...

[Crise]

In all honesty since the detection profiles are no longer actively updated by anyone (well nothing that's widely available anyways)  and since the CDM itself has it's own limitations the real world usefulness of an OP client has dropped significantly since the start of ApexDC. Of course there are still things that are useful for OP's like checking users shares for certain kind of files but this ApexDC can do at present anyways.

In short the market for OP clients just isn't what it used to be. Well to be more precise the number of people that would want to use an OP client probably still is high, but with the situation the way it is the number of people who actually can use the OP features and not do more harm than good with them has gone down greatly.

[StanleyTweedle]

Basicly Apex is all an OP needs. The client can be customized to fit any functions commonly used by an OP.

OP clients were used when the basic DC clients did not have the features that are standard in the latest Apex versions. All those functions are pretty much the norm in clients. There are however some clients that offer extra functions that an OP might need but this is more a matter of taste than need.