Did Team Elite win?

[AnOldFriend 0]

Hello Old Friends,

It seems Team Elite won as they own now the biggest hublist and are developing three hubsofts and have more alive DC++ related projects than the DC++ devs themselves. Why are you allowing these hackers to stay on-line? I am so glad I left DC++ a long time ago.

An Old Friend Of DC++

[Mek 13]

Hi,

what should we do and why should we be against them? At least somebody keeps the DC network alive.

[RoLex 1]

@AnOldFriend

You are damn right about Team Elite being the most active team on DC these and previous days. Hublist and 3 hub softwares you are talking about are not the only projects we are currently developing, there are also many scripts, plugins and bots for DC, aswell as the best anonymization software on market, a low level programming language and antivirus database specifically for DC. Don't forget about the most crucial exploits in history of DC that we discovered. Fixes for these exploits are present in all hub softwares and clients today thanks to our team. I will even tell you more, next project will be a DC client, that is to cover the whole range of DC related products. ;-)

What I don't understand though, is what you have against my team. Did anyone piss on your car last night? To me is seems obvious that you are just afraid to admit that we are the best team and developers you have met in your life. And please note, it's not me who is calling you pussy, it was you who started this thread and called yourself a weak man who is afraid of moving forward. ;-)

Have a nice day.

Edited April 18, 2017 by RoLex

[AnOldFriend 0]

The list of your projects is impressive, I admit. However, the list of projects you either hacked or killed is even bigger:

- YnHub - hacked, exploited and killed by Team Elite

- dchublist.org - killed by Team Elite

- hublist.cz & hublist.sk - killed by Team Elite

- Global OPHUB - killed by Team Elite

- Many hubs and network - hacked, users were stolen by Team Elite

- Different teams that didn't like your way (including mine) - killed by Team Elite

- Some high profile websites (according to Wikipedia) were also hacked by Team Elite

- Many other projects/groups were harmed by Team Elite

You might be great at programming but you simply cannot deny that you take what you want and judging by how things are on DC right now, you took it over and now you own it. DC-related forums have registered TE members and nobody even cares now (or is maybe too afraid to speak up?). This shows how quickly people can forget that you were terrorizing this community for the past 15 years.

Regards,

AcidVirus a.k.a. AnOldFriend

[RoLex 1]

You remind me of American and European politicians who blame Russia for everything, trying to make the rest of the world to hate them. But you seem to be forgetting about the reason why this happens. In that case I can suggest you investigating about expression "rivalry" if you haven't been in such situation in your life before. Remember two things:

1. You can't take down someone who is right about something.
2. You can't take down the strong one who defend himself.

If something or someone was hacked, there probably was a good reason to do so. Most likely to stop our enemy from pointing their small "guns" at us, alternatively to proof that there is a weak link in the chain. Team Elite is also a hacking team, that is correct.

It seems that you are still using some of that vulnerable software. Maybe it is time to start moving to another, better, more protected software. Or you intend to use broken and abandoned YnBug forever? :-)

Edited April 18, 2017 by RoLex

[Crise 26]

I probably shouldn't say anything here to be honest, but I am going to anyways.

Who won, is irrelevant... the whole concept of winning in this context is somewhat absurd it is not a war or a competition with a beginning and an end after all. I find it amusing that the word enemy even came up here at all. Whether I personally agree with or condone some actions of groups or individuals in the past, one way or another, is a different matter entirely, but also irrelevant. However, actions should have consequences and it should work both ways.

I never was keyed into all of the drama, nor did I particularly want to be, however, I believe there is rarely if ever a good reason to hack (or whatever that word actually exactly means/meant here) something or someone. Unless, you have been explicitly asked or commissioned to do so to test for vulnerabilities for example. There is seldom a need to act on something, say a vulnerability, just to make it known. The situations where throwing your weight around is your only course of action should be few and far between (and if it is done, it should be with the knowledge that doing so will likely in turn invite some kind of response from others involved). This applies to all sides not just one or the other.

When it comes to DC related projects, each project is free to manage themselves how they see fit, if that management causes ire with others then handling those situations is each projects individual responsibility as is handling any consequences of any decisions made. However, this also means that everyone involved should be able to respect these projects' right to make these decisions and at the very least agree to disagree on amicable terms.

Just because you can do something doesn't mean you necessarily should, sometimes that means pushing aside your personal feelings so that you can look at a situation objectively and make the necessary decisions. Either way looking for trouble or making choices that you know are going to perpetuate a cycle can hardly be called productive use of time and resources.

To address the matter of hublists, the whole concept while necessary at this time is, from infrastructure point of view, the weakest point in the DC network a linchpin if you will and obviously not in the positive sense. DC has a network structure that doesn't strictly require a centralized entity (above hubs) that has a lot of control in the first place so in the long run there should be an alternative for hublists that can ideally work autonomously. This is the direction that DC should have headed in the first place and it is purely based on the simple fact that a system that is self-managing is legally the most sound option (If you have little to no control over a system you can not be held responsible for exercising control, over said system, which you do not have).