Posted June 18, 2007 (edited) Hello, I have known about this bug for a while and i want to get rid of it, since it is using up my slots... Here is an example: my suggestion is that only a single slot can be occupied by each connecting IP being able to connect to the user is ok while he is downloading from me (like in that screenshot), but he is using 2 slots from me which is silly Please vote and explain your support (or lack of it) Thanks, Aztek p.s: pleeeeeeeeease stop the client from sending SR's to stuff im dling and recently dled AND NOT SHARING (if saveto location is NOT shared, do not return SR's for it !) Edited June 18, 2007 by Aztek Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 18, 2007 This is the whole point in a multi source client. I believe what your asking for is to remove segmented downloading and multi sourcing. I don't believe this would be a good idea but you can take it up with the developers. I really don't see this getting fulfilled though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 18, 2007 PS Limiting connections from same IP already disciussed : http://forums.apexdc.net/index.php?showtopic=1011 I'm still voting for "yes". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 18, 2007 (edited) well atleast add this as an OPTION ! about the p.s: if i dont share stuff i download, then i dont want people to be able to download it from me, its fiiiine if i am sharing it, other vice no atm, there is a user downloading files from me that i dont share, to stop him i need to close the connection and rename the file... veeery annoying... Edited June 18, 2007 by Aztek wdc likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 18, 2007 Turn off segmented downloading, and it'll be gone ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 18, 2007 well atleast add this as an OPTION ! about the p.s: if i dont share stuff i download, then i dont want people to be able to download it from me, its fiiiine if i am sharing it, other vice no atm, there is a user downloading files from me that i dont share, to stop him i need to close the connection and rename the file... veeery annoying... just disable segmented downloading and you will get what you want ;-) EDIT: Kulmegil was faster )) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 18, 2007 no i like to be able to seg dl, but not seg upl all i want is my client to stop sending SR's for stuff i dont share ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 18, 2007 There is an option to avoid partial sharing already (disable segmented downloading) as mentioned by Big Muscle and Kulmegil... and that's the way it's going to stay, sorry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 18, 2007 Still max upload slots per IP is wroth considering - probably even in ADC world where users are identified by unique CID (bad clients will give different CIDs on each hub to suck out more slots from You). Exclude favorite users and "free" stuff (filelists, TTHL's, small files) from limit. And it's quite simple to implement. wdc likes this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 19, 2007 no i like to be able to seg dl, but not seg upl then you are a leecher and you shouldn't be on DC at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 19, 2007 Voted NO mainly because im only on private hubs, and i find it usefull. If majority votes YES and if its proven to be better on public hubs, im all for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 19, 2007 then you are a leecher and you shouldn't be on DC at all. might be, i am an operator in all hubs i am in, and i don't share as a op thats one of the reason i want people not to be able to download from me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 19, 2007 Did You enabled hideshare option (in addition to not sharing anything)? PS I really, really don't get how could people ever vote NO for adding this optional limit. Makes me wonder if they really know what was the question. Since benefits are obvious (to me at least) ... maybe someone can show me at least one argument against it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 19, 2007 Simple there are network setups where many people may share only a single or a few real IP's... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 19, 2007 Yeah thats it, i have 5 computers, each have same IP. Luckily im the only one using DC atm, but what if someone else would. :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 19, 2007 (edited) the limit would be OPTIONAL, not default on or something like that just a tick in advanced or some "Only allow each IP to occupy one upload port" and add a tooltip "Warning: Enabling this might prevent multiple legitimate users from the same IP from downloading from you" and grant extra slot might allow users to bypass that limit... in the dl bar area just say "This IP is blocked because it is already downloading from this user" then the user can request a slot and viola sounds simple enough... Edited June 19, 2007 by Aztek Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 19, 2007 So what's the real chance that few people using single IP will want to download from You at a time (unless You share over 10TB or something). Even IF all this changes that second user will have to wait a bit. World is moving into direction of giving each user unique IP (at least when IPv6 will kick in). Besides it's upto sharer to decide... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 19, 2007 (edited) then you are a leecher and you shouldn't be on DC at all. Simply Put: Use DC++ if your in private hubs and don't want multiple anything. But if you want to multiple download but not let peeps multiple upload then I am with Big Muscle your leaching and shouldn't be on DC anyhow Edited June 19, 2007 by Motorhead Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted June 20, 2007 might be, i am an operator in all hubs i am in, and i don't share as a op thats one of the reason i want people not to be able to download from me If you're an OP and you don't share (don't see the point in that though, it only raises hub's share size...), but you download... then sorry, but you're a leecher. Being OP doesn't (shouldn't) exclude you from sharing, DC is not a download program, it's a filesharing program. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 7, 2007 If you're an OP and you don't share (don't see the point in that though, it only raises hub's share size...), but you download... then sorry, but you're a leecher. Being OP doesn't (shouldn't) exclude you from sharing, DC is not a download program, it's a filesharing program. Okay, As a non techie, I'm probably missing something here. Surely the thing to do is set downloads up to go into a folder you're not sharing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 7, 2007 i don't, i download, sort and THEN put in the sharing folder... i don't want the unsorted stuff i am not sharing atm to be uploaded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 7, 2007 Simple there are network setups where many people may share only a single or a few real IP's... yes, that's the point ... for example at our university campus there were over 1000 computers using the same real IP address ... and i bet it isn't the only place on earth and yepp, as if it would be optional, it would be good, but as i know ppl rarely read what the client sais (and will probably say that they got "connection closed" not "someone is currently downloading from this IP, so please ask for extra if you want to get sg, blabla") and will only ask for support or help and answers why cannot they download from some ppl. believe me, ppl rarely read the error messages or any automated messages, so it's "dangerous" to implement such an option as would flood the support ppl with questions btw: i'm not sharing also instantly what i downloaded ... first sort them out after checking, and only than share back, but my share is fairly enough ( i think ) ... without putting all newly downloaded stuff instantly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 7, 2007 In a way I can see the point. If one person has all his upload slots used on one person, then surely that means that the idea of sharing is redundant? In much the same was as opening only 1 slot is frowned upon, opening 5 and having them all used by 1 user, you may as well have 1 slot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 7, 2007 It can't really be reasonable be implemented with the NMDC protocol, maybe bring this up once ADC is more widely used. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted August 11, 2007 at least three clients implemented this feature very correctly: they are checking IP+exact share size, or IP+nick (if share size is 0). i've tested this much and didn't find troubles with users beyond NAT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
